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| Death Bat |
U.S marine throws puppy off cliff :(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2pexEd_H-Qidk what to say 
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| Lokker |
I don't worry; The puppy wailing cuts out too short. Chances are they either used a dummy or caught the puppy in a net. | ||||||
| Nomega |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7cIRXFGrw&feature=related
I thought they saved him? joking aside, if it was real that is pretty fucked up and should result in a discharge. |
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| the hunter |
No lokker, that was a real puppy, it was on the news, AND the guys getting discharged for it, its not fake. ALSO you can see the puppy hit the ground |
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| Nomega |
where does the dog hit the ground?
I just see it disappear over the cliff, unless you're talking about that "thump" noise. |
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| the hunter |
oh never mind, i though i saw it hit the ground, but yeah, thats real no dought about it, because in the news it says the guys getting dismissed
and another thing on how its not fake.. is THEY dont have TIME to make somthing like that when there in Iraq, or the editing tools, that had to be have done if they found it, and done it. which is terrible |
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| Nomega |
Ahh I see it now. It was hard to tell with the shitty camera quality | ||||||
| the hunter |
yeah i only watched it once, cause its disturbing, and sad | ||||||
| Kabal |
i'd rather not watch it and i'll take your word for it that it was a disturbing video. | ||||||
| the hunter |
yeah..death bat made me watch it. i wouldnt have if he would have stoped bugging me. but yeah its disturbing | ||||||
| SYLUXMASTER7227 |
it said you have to be over 18 to watch XD | ||||||
| Brandon |
its a real dog if you look closely you can see its mouth open up...that basterd needs to be shoot for that! | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
I acually noticed something which is rather odd that someone posted.
If you look the pants and yelps the dog makes at first do not match the mouth and oddly even in that uncomfertable position the dog doesn't squrm or cry loudly nor does it move at all besides his mouth slightly opening which could happen because of gravity on a doll, also the fact that he could throw a dog that far off a clift without a running start makes him Mr. Universe or a realistic plush pup. And Brandon, its mouth did open a bit but then again plush toys and rubber move as well due to a thing called gravity. And last but not least..... that yelp is one of the fakest dog yelps I've ever heard. If you've heard what an actual dog yelps like its one really loud shreak not a soft yeek sound like that dog was making. Also, odd that somehow the sound of the puppy doesn't have the doppler effect applied and the dogs yelp is oddly one consistant tone about four or five times which is almost impossable. Hell I can't even get myself to say something in the same voice tone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39RxQKpnTVc A real yelp |
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| Brandon |
mother dogs hold their puppys the same way,plus i hear my dog bark in the samme tone,another thing they are over seas they realy have no time to add sound fx's in, I know people that where over there they dont have that much time. the guy even said it was real, he also said that the normaly shoot them. | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
Ok... so a guy in an interview said it was real so it must be.
So I guess that prisoner who says he isn't guilty isn't really guilty because he said so. But honestly how do you explain the besides the mouth the dog not moving one inch from the position it was in. Also how come the dogs yelps are a few seconds late and seemingly breaks the law of the doppler effect of having a consistant sound even as it moves farther and farther away from the camera. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect |
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| Brandon |
i think you just find it to hard to believe that an american "hero" would do that. | ||||||
| Brandon |
look when he picks it up it goes stiff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKO58GFXgW8&NR=1 |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
1. I never said that but then again if you infering that about me then you must be one of those total and complete dumbasses who think the U.S. military are heartless bastards who take enjoyment out of killing. I also think that your one of those people who believe one incident of something means everyone else in the group are like that.
2. The Dog didn't totally go stiff, it was still wagging its tail and flinching at times along with growling. The dog in the 'murder' video never moved, once, not even when it was being thrown. It still remained in its fetal position and as I stated before, the sounds when the dog was yelping went against the doppler effect, sure, it quieted but the growls didn't eco off as they should have because of it moving away from the ear. |
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| Brandon |
1. your a dumbass you dont know me so dont think you can lable to as one of "those" people. I NEVER said that just because he did that the whole armed forces were assholes that like to kill. I support the troops im just saying supporting to the point where you cant believe shit like this happens makes you the dumbass!
what to start shit with me and call me a dumbass just know this i will fight you the whole way. If anyone here is a dumbass its you, I bet your not even that smart of a kid, the internet makes you feel powerful because you know nobody knows you. 2. the dog does move up of the fetal position look at it when he pulls his arm back! If a baby like that is scared its not going to move! Now that i said my peace lets drop this |
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| Kabal |
I have some unfortunate news for you, just cause you fucking join the army doesnt exactly mean you are accepted into sainthood, yea not every soldier is a complete dirtbag but if you think that there arent people who join the army cause they are young and stupid and want to go shoot iraqi's and innocent people, then you are wrong. This is a fucked up world. I know alot of people who can do amazing things with video editing and such but whether this is real or not doesnt make the underlying truth any less potent that Soldiers do shit like this, teach children over there to call themselves profane language in our language cause they dont understand, beat people, kill people for fun? You my friend are the one who is a complete dumbass for throwing around such ignorant accusations. You have no place to do that. |
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| Lokker |
Damien: Normally, I'd flame your ass for bitching, Kabal. This time I wholly agree that Shas has gone too far with this shit! I feel like I entered the fucking Twilight Zone right now!
... All crap aside, Brandon's right. I'm doing the smart thing right now and locking this topic! |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
First to Brandon
If your going to call someone a dumbass for throwing an accusion.... you might want to make sure your not being hipocritical. You know I only put that part because of that comment. Second to Brandon and Kabal Honestly.... is just calling me a dumbass because I don't totally agree with you that it is real make me a dumbass or some facist bastard which happen to be the insults you both keep throwing at me. I am just saying that their are a few suspiciously unrealistic things with the video such as how the puppy's yelps ignored the doppler effect for the most part. Also how the puppy never moved even when thrown and how far the soldier threw it with the amount of effort he seemed to have put into it. And when did I ever say that I fully support the army and I believe them all to be heros? Jesus Christ, you guys are telling me not to throw out idiotic accusions but you guys need to seriously need to stop being hipocritical and stop throwing out the same accusions. Seriously the only reason I made that comment to Brandon was because he made a comment just like that just on the opposite end of the spectrium. |
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| Kabal |
Its not your call to deprive me, shas, or brandon our right of freedom of speech, this isnt a fight, its a debate of contrasting opinions.
Therefore it is unlocked. |
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| Brandon |
Josh is not bitching he is stateing cold hard facts. | ||||||
| Lokker |
The only reason I locked this is it's starting to draw a line in a sand and I wanted to prevent it from happening. If it means anything, you have every right to be offended at this video. This will stay unlocked unless Robby requests it personally. | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
I don't get why you think I am depriving you of something Kabal. And if this is such a debate then maybe you both need to learn off the mudslinging and focus more on the argument I am presenting then focusing on trying to insult me which is by all means failing. | ||||||
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| Brandon |
if robby wants it locked he can lock it himself.
doppler effect huh? you a scientist? you work with sound all day like I do in AV editing? im not a scientist but from what i hear it sounds real. give better facts, plus if you look they are right next to the cliff. you see the dog hit the ground. and im sorry for calling you a dumbass, and i respect your ideas but the doppler effect is about the only thing you have going for facts. |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
And really beside sight and a confession which the soldier could have made up for personal fame. Its happened before, ever hear of the Boston strangler? A innocent man made up a fake confession just so he would go down in history after he was exicuted.
I'm just saying its odd how the puppys voice doesn't echo it just fades as it falls down which is something extremely easy to edit, not only that but the yelping seems a few seconds off and I have never personally heard a dog yelp like that before. I know your saying that most soldiers do not have time to edit sound bytes and stuff but it doesn't mean that there isn't an exception or it is impossable to do. |
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| Kabal |
I dont see why you are apologizing
from what I remember Shas called you a dumbass first, Shithead's o keljel said: 1. I never said that but then again if you infering that about me then you must be one of those total and complete dumbasses who think the U.S. military are heartless bastards who take enjoyment out of killing. I also think that your one of those people who believe one incident of something means everyone else in the group are like that. who is the one throwing around assumptions and acting like they can read everyone's intentions? Are you a fucking therapist? Do you have a degree in psychology? no you dont, your just a kid playing doctor on a video game forum. You can voice your opinions but your fucking shit of calling people names is out of line. |
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| Lokker |
I understand... I guess. My only response to this dispute is that I feel too much impulsiveness to everyone's posts and that this is too sore a subject to debate about. If you guys feel like this is something that has to be done, then I won't post in these debates from now on.*gone* | ||||||
| Kabal |
i dont mind anyone speaking their mind until it becomes an attack of peoples morals,
shas it out of line. |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
That was in responce to the very first mudsling and insult on me which was this
So technicly it all started because of his origanal inferance about me which... you seem to ignore the first sentance in that post which states that if he is making an ignorant inferance like that then I'll do the same to him which is what that post was. Also I fail to see where I attacked his morals, I never once said that if the soldier really did kill the puppy Brandon needs to stop being a pussy about it. In fact if he did I do want actions taken and I agree that its wrong. And saying that I'm throwing assumptions you do the same quite a lot. I realise you do not like me Kabal because I am blunt and speak my mind but that isn't a reason to try and get me to start a fight with you when ever you get the chance. |
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| Brandon |
well. shas why would he say that for just fame! for God's sake he can get a dishoroadle discharge for that. he would have lost all benifits no health care no usmc check coming in every month and he would have that follow him forever. a discharge like that is like being in jail with out being there people wont hire you because of it. | ||||||
| Brandon |
wait! how is that mudslinging! | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
Brandon, I honestly don't know. I'm just saying that some people will do something like that for the attention or fame so don't rule it out. I don't have a mind that works like that so I can't explain peoples inpulse to want attention any way they can.
It was mudslinging by the tone of voice which I read it in, to me it sounded like you were insulting my intellagance for what you found as a blind following to America's military as if they can do not wrong. |
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| Kabal |
I can be very blunt as well, I do think you are an honest person, unfortunately that makes you more of an asshole on many occasions than it would an honorable person,
"you must be one of those complete dumbass's who thinks soldiers kill for their own enjoyment" That statement is an assumption in which you judge brandon's morals by saying that he thinks soldiers are over there killing for a good time, a person with that mentality is probably a real dickhead and I didnt think it was really fair of you to say something like that. And brandon was only refering to that soldier only, he said nothing about the entirely of the millions of soldiers over there. dont unrightfully call people dumbasses and we wont fight. simple as that. |
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| Kabal |
Intelligence* That is someone insulting your intellagance. >=[ |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
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You...... don't listen..... do you..... I was saying that if he wanted to make a rather unaccurate and offincive accusion with me blindling following the U.S. military I would throw that accusion back... Jesus.... that was about the fifth time I've said it.... |
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| Brandon |
my psychology said that in the sub thinking of the mind a person that likes to hurt or has anger will join the armed forces, he also said that its not true for all. | ||||||
| Lokker |
You can't expect an action to go without consequence. Fake or not it was risky to place it on Youtube or even Myspace, for anyone to witness. The fact that the Doppler Effect might explain why there was no echo or even a change in volume, there are still people on the comments board that say you could hear the volume lower if you listen closely. Shas was right in saying that you guys shouldn't have been on his ass the instant he made the comment, but he was also wrong in making assumptions about who Brandon is or what his views were. I'm also in the wrong for letting my anger slip out for that instant and I personally withdraw anything that may have presented a case I was firmly against. | ||||||
| Brandon |
lol psychology teacher | ||||||
| Kabal |
Offensive, Accusation Blinding? You are good at spelling. . .you must be one of those dumbasses who thinks soldiers cant spell either because they are too busy killing innocent puppies? |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
You know, psychology isn't always right and its all judging on some odd observations from people who are not fully there...
According to some psychologist, I am a closet homosexual who has a mad crush on my mother, hates my father, and I am extremely paranoid near the point of being to scared to act on anything.... I know that really has nothing to do with anything but just saying... |
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| Brandon |
lol i never said it was | ||||||
| Lokker |
It appears that Shas is apologizing... I think. Shas, if I'm wrong about this then I will delete my own statement. | ||||||
| Kabal |
See this is the part where everyone loses focus on what we were talking about, things calm down, and this becomes really funny. | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
And there is a diffrence Kabal with you insulting my spelling. I never once claimed that I was the greatest speller in the world in fact, I have said countless times to ignore my spelling because I suck at it.
And somewhat I'm not fully apologizing, I'm just clearing up what I am saying so people stop trying to hang me/ |
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| Lokker |
Speaking of which, I'm surprised Icy hasn't somehow resurfaced. | ||||||
| Brandon |
but in some cases it is true and does work. its all about the person. | ||||||
| Brandon |
lol not icy! | ||||||
| Lokker |
I, personally, try to get in the head of people but only if I can feel any vibes that might come off them. I at least can say that I was better off not locking or even deleting this post. | ||||||
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| Shas'o Keljel |
I think I got rid of Icy the last time people told me to make him shut up... | ||||||
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| ICYnotsogangsta |
I love you Shas! you sob! | ||||||
| ICYnotsogangsta |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! | ||||||
| Kabal |
Too shay, I never said I was good either, actually i just right clicked the word check and selected the correct spelling given. Im not that hot of a speller myself so once again, common ground is found. Alright now here is the true question? Is anyone else thinking this as a game? or are people actually taking this serious cause I understand the video is pretty offensive (true or not true) but all in all this is seeming to be a really positive way to vent and kill time in our boring afternoons. . .I mean I cant go to gamestop till later tonight so im killing time and as much as I really dont care for shas, you always give me a run for my money in a good ol arguement of contrasting opinions. |
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| ICYnotsogangsta |
keep the fight going! | ||||||
| Shas'o Keljel |
I LOVE YOU TOO GIVE ME A BIG HUG! ACCORDING TO MY PSYCOLOGIST I AM GAY ANYWAY! | ||||||
| Lokker |
Alright, who the ^@!#!! made those posts? | ||||||
| Kabal |
No Icy was a good example of someone I actually didnt like. . .like I may not get along well with Shas normally,
but icy was an all out asshole. I extremely disliked him. |
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| Brandon |
LOL kinda how almost nobody liked my buddy the jester. they are both british | ||||||
| Lokker |
He was but I kinda liked him around... things get dull around here so any comic relief is good at the time. | ||||||
| Lokker |
I noticed that, too. I'm part Scottish and I find it weird that the only two British members on this forum got immensely offended and left. | ||||||
| Brandon |
lol getting your joys from the pain of others is fun! | ||||||
| Kabal |
Unless its soldiers. . .then it isnt fun. | ||||||
| Lokker |
For me, I know my life can royally suck, but I still feel happy that it's only temporary. I'm in Hell sometimes and I can't help but feel happy. | ||||||
| Brandon |
The funny thing was the jester is a good kid. its just funny that nobody liked him | ||||||
| Brandon |
lol emo emo emo! | ||||||
| Kabal |
Everyone's life sucks sometimes. . .
its just important that you do your best to be there to make sure it sucks even more. . wait what? haha |
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| Lokker |
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| Lokker |
What I mean is that there are good times and bad times. The only reason I feel happy I'm in a temporary Hell is because it won't last and I can find peace in it. | ||||||
| Kabal |
Man, everyone is happy and no one is fighting again, and now shas isnt talking anymore in this topic, *thinks of an idea*
Shas you are a dooshbag. . *discuss* hehe ;] |
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| Shas'o Keljel |
I wasn't talking because my sister was downloading a bunch of pointless stuff so my internet shut down... all fixed now because I pulled the plug on her.
Anyhow.... dooshbag me? No I can't be! Also main diffrence between a asshole and a dumbass. Assholes are smart and know how to use their wit and intelligance to insult others. EX) Kabal, Me Dumbasses are people who are just idiotic and think they're smart or can insult someone but fails misribly each time EX) Icy, Death_Bat |
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| Lokker |
You're walking on ice thinner than Kate Moss, Shas. | ||||||
| Kabal |
Olsen twins ftw? | ||||||
| Y2JCrusher |
British people aren't welcome here *loads gun* |
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| SYLUXMASTER7227 |
hi brandon. 
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| Death Bat |
well even if its fake that guy is still a fucking dick |
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| Robby |
Anyway... I think the dog was fake and a half if you ask me. | ||||||
| Death Bat |
lmao well your not an asshole your just a fucking queer that thinks hes a hard ass |
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| Kabal |
There is a difference between thinking and knowing. . .
by this point i think that Shas knows he is a hard ass. I just thought of something. . .anyone think of the possibility it could have been a litter of puppies and that one just didnt survive and they just added noises to make it seem alive? I mean that explanation would make everyone right because the video would be a fake but the puppy would be real. .. think bout that for a couple seconds and you might agree |
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| Lokker |
Still, that video bugs the crap outta me! | ||||||
| Kabal |
I know but im pretty pleased with my new theory. . .gotta see what shas thinks though, either he will agree which is cool. . .or we'll fight it out again which is just as good.
Win/win situation |
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| SYLUXMASTER7227 |
mhm thats a good idea
its possible still, throwing it off a cliff? >.< |
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| Brandon |
you checked the IP you cheater! |
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| Brandon |
even if it was dead they made it seem alive and doing that, the usmc can and will still discharge his ass with no benifits. ether way for him its lose/lose. if it was fake he is fucked if its real he's still fucked. this guy is the real "dumbass" in this post. | ||||||
| SYLUXMASTER7227 |
haha yay ip check |
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| Death Bat |
throwing dead puppies is terrible to and brocks not a hard ass he wouldnt fight me at jon or davids if i whent |
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| the hunter |
well real or not..the guys getting discharged | ||||||
| Kabal |
and thats a pretty good example cosidering I know who David is and all. . .or whoever's place you just spoke of. | ||||||
| Guest |
Jsut gove up. This is the inernet there are going to bitchass niggas saying what they wanna say (not trying to diss nobody). Just let it slide and that goes the rest of you guys too. |
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| Brandon |
wow way to go... bringing that old shit up! |
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| Kabal |
Hahaha The The WAR CONTINUE!!!!!
Lets Go Bitches |
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| Robby |
I think it's time for a little bit of our ol' friend here..
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| SYLUXMASTER7227 |
haha i love that picture | ||||||
| Lokker |
I think we've hit a new record: Most posts on an amazingly morbid topic | ||||||
| Brandon |
wow robby that was not needed and and i dont think it makes you cool for posting that -_- . Nobody was fighting so why post that? |
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| Lokker |
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